Cre8asite Forums constantly is producing top notch forum threads that hit the SEM industry problems on the head. A recent post by Adrian (mod at cre8asite) named SES slammed by designers links to a two blog entries by two hard core designers, one at Eric Meyer's blog named Silly Expert Opinions which links to the blog entry that started this heated debate at compooter.org.
In summary, compooter was at the conference and attended the Advanced Design Issues: CSS, Javascript & Frames session moderated by Chris Sherman, with speakers named Matthew Bailey, Dan Stone, and Shari Thurow. I personally did not attend this session, so I can not offer my opinion on it. As you can imagine, this session talks about how search engines dislike JavaScript, Flash, Frames and the like. The speakers most probably spoke on how to cope with this technologies if you want your pages to rank well. I can understand why designers are frustrated with the engines, but this compooter blogger went over the line. Check out the various links above for more information, you will see that the bridge is being built between the SEM community and the design community.
Also, I have deep respect to Danny Sullivan for going all out here. He has several comments at the links above. He has a true and deep affection for the SEM industry. Danny is doing everything in his power, IMO, to help the industries reputation and he should be commended.