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What happened on Google is also happening on YouTube. It is not inundated with AI slop, so when you search for something, you get a ton of impersonations, irrelevant shorts, AI videos, everything is buried. They are doing this on purpose
A proper choice screen for AI / 10 blue links would be a great start. They have Web Results but not many people know about that plus its littered with everything that is bad about the ALL results but as links.
I would like it, but as judge Amiteur Mehta said in his summing up, that the choice screen didn't do much when you look at European data, most people would choose Google anyway. It might dent Google by 10%? Random guestimate.
I thought choice screens were on the UK, I can't remember since the last time I bought a new device. I do remember once seeing a choice screen I think or maybe its the "Mandela Effect" or have they dropped it since we left the European Union?
I don't know about selling Chrome because whoever buys it might be like Brave and turn off adverts as default. If they were to be forced to sell, adverts on would have to be the default; otherwise, it would hurt business a heck of a lot, and many people won't turn on adverts. Forcing Google to sell Chrome might result in say ChatGPT or Anthropic and they are also walled gardens, ChatGPT do not give sources by default so we'd still be in the rut. I'd prefer forcing Google to change than sell.
They're main things I can think of at the moment.
How many people were in the meeting today?
Yes good idea to make submission. The one today was talking about presenting a screen to users so they have a choice of search engines or LLM providers. On all devices in the UK. Like a pop up box. Personally, not sure its good for user to have more to do etc.
I won't be able to make it, I'll make a submission the weekend.. I've had a look at https://connect.cma.gov.uk/google-search-conduct-requirements
Quite a lot to read.
I'll have to think about but you've come up with some goods things. Maybe @disqus_vnfkocgjmp:disqus could think of some too, I think he's a content creator, cough, online publisher.
I think its not unreasonable to say you want to be able to opt out of AI, either directly or their Proxies which I think Anthropic & ChatGPT do. They shouldn't make their TOS about AI/Search combo in other words you have one without the other. AI companies who are making money from the content, they should share their revenue.
Fair Ranking is ok, I can't understand how one line Wikipedia pages can outrank more detailed pages. How is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Aurigids">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Aurigids</a> better than <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecartereurope/2025/10/10/look-up-saturday-to-see-the-delta-aurigid-meteor-shower---what-to-expect/">https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecartereurope/2025/10/10/look-up-saturday-to-see-the-delta-aurigid-meteor-shower---what-to-expect/</a> . Also how did Reddit become so popular in the results after I think the deal they made with Google for training.
Which meeting are you joining? If you don't want to say, thats fine if you think your identity will be given away. I won't be there so won't know. Can you republish all the meetings they do again please
Also I don't know if this relevant, image search should send people to sites not show them in glory and BING should definitely not be making money or at least share. Look up "Mount Rushmore" in Bing images. Boom first one shows the picture and there's an advert for Bing to make money and I wonder how much ThoughtCo gets.
the vast majority of people selling seo are just scammers now. Once you can't actually make any money doing seo, the finally bit of cash you can squeeze out of it selling seo to victims, or maybe selling training courses.
<blockquote>It is even more hilarious when you see SEO subreddit or Black Hat World members still saying “SEO isn’t dead, you just gotta adapt.”</blockquote>
It's still true to some level.... some people are making 6/7 figure incomes from seo. But it's dead for most of the people with rubbish websites and a $0 promotional budget. The days of a free income from the internet with a rubbish affiliate site have been over for years.
@johnauser:disqus can you tell me what you think we should ask for. e.g. Fair ranking: not sure how this could work. Opting out of AI (not really an option)
I won't be able to attend so i hope the meeting is beneficial and not just something where they try to look good. Hopefully, you can come back with a summary for us.
i checked it for fun and we outranked musicradar 1st spot for almost anything we write (I know sounds braggy), but that's the case. almost same on bing, ddg simiar / yahoo similar.
That was the point of the test. The author wanted to see if the platforms ingested only text found in valid schema, or if they also picked up text in completly made up schema types
These things are very legit mom blogs, existed for ages already, they circulating mostly in pinterest, and get a tons of traffics, you can regard those legit and quality authority sites, that's why they ranked.
Maybe the food blogs closed prior to AI retreating because of the Frankenstein recipe problem? I'm not sure, because I'm in ecom and even 100% impossible to find products we sell get no traffic from Google because of their ad spam.
Just remember there are many like you who build sites and monetize with ads. Very few niches have no AI and ads. If you do build food blogs, you may not be competing against Google (for now), but the competition may be intense as others like you enter niches where AI isn't present or displayed often.
Because AI is just scrape, spin and publish. Google has stolen ingredients from recipe bloggers, spun the ingredients together to output single disastrous final recipes. If a recipe site is doing good, that just means Google and other AI chatbots realize they can't easily steal a recipe without copying it in its entirety. So if you want to create sites that get traffic, you must do the same and find niches where AI isn't stealing all the traffic.
Barry had a number of posts regarding what are known as AI generated Frankenstein recipes. You will find Barry's most recent post <a href="https://www.seroundtable.com/bing-unshipping-frankenstein-recipes-40888.html">https://www.seroundtable.com/bing-unshipping-frankenstein-recipes-40888.html</a> on his homepage, which links to his previous posts about the topic.
but still why do sites like this are doing so well? I see cooking sites and they just crush it especially US guys, there must be something to it, it's just a.. blog
<a href="http://happyfoodstube.com">http://happyfoodstube.com
</a> also there are more of them here <a href="https://aruljohn.com/websites-using-mediavine">https://aruljohn.com/websites-using-mediavine</a>
And @disqus_tCRyPV6vXh:disqus , well, they have Qwant, which uses the Bing index if I'm correct. They could do more to support them. Qwant is really nice except for the small amount of pictures and videos they have, they should get rid of those and wahey.... Qwant does both France and mostly worldwide.